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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:55:48 -
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Sibyyl wrote:
If you want aggressors to pick up Criminal flag, then you should be a miner. Sounds like farming is something you're into.
What methods of ISK generation do you not consider farming then? .01 station games? We all have to pay for our pvp somehow, unless you can consistently solo pimpfit faction ships or you buy PLEX every month.
Get off your high horse about farming, everyone had to do it. As long as he's doing it in a combat ship and not a quad-stabbed merlin I see no problem.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:04:05 -
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Flash Thomson wrote:Hello,
I want to suggest to flag Pilots, that enter FW Complexes without taking part in Faction Warfare, as criminals.
FW Complexes are sectors of military operations as such "civilians" have no reason to be there.
In most cases those "Civilians" will go on and attack the "military personal" on duty.
In order to stay alive it is often necessary to open fire first, which will not only flag the Pilot carrying out his duty as criminal but also lower his security rating.
This does not make sense in any way.
Best Regards
Flash Thomson
PS: I was not sure if this should be posted here or on Faction Warfare.
Agreed. I should not have to give someone the first volley just because they have a highsec logistics alt. Pirates love farming kills in FW plexes; if you warp into one as a neutral 99% of the time you're looking for a fight. Should get a suspect timer upon taking gate. If you want to pick off FW players sack up and join FW.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:07:15 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
If you want aggressors to pick up Criminal flag, then you should be a miner. Sounds like farming is something you're into.
What methods of ISK generation do you not consider farming then? .01 station games? We all have to pay for our pvp somehow, unless you can consistently solo pimpfit faction ships or you buy PLEX every month. Get off your high horse about farming, everyone had to do it. As long as he's doing it in a combat ship and not a quad-stabbed merlin I see no problem. I don't do any PVE for isk. Get off your high horse and go gank someone. 
You're still farming. You're just farming idiots instead of red crosses. I only have one account so ganking for profit would be unworkable.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2015.02.26 18:49:31 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I only have one account so ganking for profit would be unworkable. You have heard of friends right?
This gets trotted out every time someone is defending their alt-dependent gameplay.
The reason people use alts is to fulfill a task so boring that no human player wants to do it full time.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2015.02.28 04:40:16 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I only have one account so ganking for profit would be unworkable. You have heard of friends right? This gets trotted out every time someone is defending their alt-dependent gameplay. The reason people use alts is to fulfilll a task so boring that no human player wants to do it full time. I'm not defending my game play, everyone should play how they like. With that said, I have no need to defend it. If you choose to have one account that is fine but that in no way means you can't gank for profit. The tactics involved in successfully ganking for profit are infinitely more engaging than orbiting a button for profit. But it does take patience and forethought. Freighters are ganked for profit on a daily basis, very few if any of those groups are multiboxed anymore. More on topic: If you want to orbit a button with the intention of getting fights why would you worry about a minuscule sec status hit that can be easily fixed with cheap sec status tags or a few minutes of ratting?
Ganking for profit is not difficult once you understand how to get around the crimewatch mechanics. I could make decent ISK ganking untanked barges in 0.5 systems if I had another account to scoop loot. It just doesn't appeal to me. It seems very much like PvE as you can simply scan the target, figure out if you have the DPS to pop them before concordokken, f1 and scoop loot with alt. The margins are pretty good if you can use a t1 fit catalyst and the loot fairy isn't on her period.
If you make your money that way, fine. I'm just tired of seeing an elitist attitude towards people who "farm" at PvE so they can afford to risk things other than tech 1 frigates and destroyers against people who actually shoot back.
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